The Demiurge and Disorder

"This gloomy ruler has three names: The first name is Yaldabaoth (child of the void). The second is Saklas (the fool). The third is Samael (god of the blind). He is wicked because of the Mindlessness that is in him. For he said, 'I am God, and there is no other God besides me,' since he did not know from where his own strength had come." ”Hypostasis of the Archons.” The Other Bible. Ed. Willis Barnstone. Harper San Francisco, 1984. 79.

The Biblical creator god’s greatest flaw is his ignorance – he literally does not understand where he came from. The Demiurge’s limited awareness made him the target of many cruel jokes in the gnostic scriptures, not least of which were the insulting nicknames he was given:

“This gloomy ruler has three names: “The first name is Yaldabaoth (child of the void). The second is Saklas (the fool). The third is Samael (god of the blind).

He is wicked because of the Mindlessness that is in him. For he said, ‘I am God, and there is no other God besides me,’ since he did not know from where his own strength had come.” ((“The Secret Book of John.” The Secret Teachings of Jesus. Trans. Marvin W. Meyer. Vintage, 1984. 65.))


The Demiurge may be forgiven this failure to examine his origins, for they point to a painful paradox inherent to dissipative systems, to wit:

The creator “god” of the bible is not the supreme being, but a tribal deity who exists wholly within the confines of space, time and matter as a predatory superorganism.

Thus – just like any other parasite –  the Demiurge must harness energy degradation across a gradient flow in order to maintain his own structure.

In other words, even the creator “god” of the Bible has to eat or die.

That in itself is hardly remarkable – the world is filled with polytheistic cultures, and gods (both malevolent and benevolent) who feed on blood and worship. What makes the Demuirge so uniquely insane and dysfunctional is this:

Unlike the sacrifical gods of polytheistic cultures the Demiurge recognizes no other source above himself – he thinks that he himself is the Supreme Being.

Thus, from his point of view, there is no such thing as a free lunch – the law of the jungle is all that there is.


As the second law of thermodynamics notes, the overall disorder of any given system will always increase over time as the system seeks equilibrium – thus, meat rots, rocks roll downhill and machines wear out.

When the Big Bang introduced space, time and matter into existence, our infant universe – which was, at least for moment, a trillion times smaller and denser than the head of a pin – was also quite orderly. Nothing to do and nowhere to go – nothing existed but photons, or light particles.

This primitive state of order was only temporary, however; almost instantly, the universe exploded outwards, spawning billions and billions of suns, solar systems and even entire galaxies as it expanded and cooled.

Even as it inflated wildly, our universe had already begun dying, sliding towards inevitable (and unglamorous) heat death. One day, billions of years from now, there will be nowhere left to go, no more energy left to use up and nothing left to grow or create. The universe will stop spreading outwards, the stars will burn out, and life will quietly and gently extinguish itself.

The idea that our universe is nothing more than a giant spring winding down introduces a paradox. Why do we see evidence of increased order and increased complexity all around us, if the creation we know is ultimately based on the degradation of energy? Whence cathedrals, computers, the evolution of life itself?

The answer is that ecosystems, civilizations, living beings and even gods are all examples of dissipative systems – complex networks of interlocking processes which take far more energy to build and maintain than they generate.

These small pockets of order are anomalies, tiny islands of negentropy in a vast ocean of chaos; the more complex a given phenomenon, the more energy it must consume in order to maintain its identity and so, the more disorder it creates in the long run. ((Salthe, S. N. 2003. Infodynamics, a developmental framework for ecology/economics. Conservation Ecology 7(3): 3. URL:

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  1. DarkCode on June 15, 2006 at 8:57 pm

    >:( lol your crazy man lol how dare you even try to fathom the omnipotence of our God You are a fool


  2. Dlite on June 16, 2006 at 7:17 am

    😮 first I am mega shocked at this. It is total rubbish.

    I find it hard to believe that people subscribe to this crap.

    Do try to find the truth and it would set you free

  3. a on June 16, 2006 at 11:06 pm

    The only logical explaination

    If the God of the Bible is a demi-god, then who is the first God and how did the first God come to be? The only logical explaination is that God exists forever. There is no other reasonable conculsion. The big bang had to come from somewhere – where? God must exist.

  4. Rev Max on June 17, 2006 at 12:33 pm

    Hi a,

    The first God exists outside of space and time and is the product of itself. It comes before the other gods (the Biblical god included) and, in fact, contains them.

    This Supreme Being is so far above and beyond anything our minds can even conceive that the gnostics didn’t even giveit a name – or else they gave it anomalous, elusive names like “the unknown father” or “the hidden God” or “the unnameable.”

    The Big Bang was the result of a quantum fluctuation in a vacuum. Whether this was something that just “happened” or was deliberately steered by one of the lower gods will be explained in a future installment of this journal.

    ~ Max ;D

  5. shiva on June 22, 2006 at 8:17 am


    This type of “gnostic” thought is interesting and ancient, it’s not the product of some neo pagan or whatever type of recent philosophy. Although I do find it amusing that there is the incorporation of Big Bang cosmology into an ancient belief system. As someone who has it made it his business to study the Big Bang theory in depth I can only caution people in using it as part of their spiritual philosophy. The reason for this caution is because the Big Bang theory has never been a theory with any real scientific proof to back it up. In fact it has always had serious problems when compared with actual observational data. As time has gone on the problems have grown worse and worse to the point where today the BB theory is totally rejected by honest scientists. I say “honest” because there is a great resistance in the theoretical astro physics community in accepting that countless careers and books and reputations are all based on a total fallacy. I won’t go into the details of the numerous problems but I can direct you to some sites where you can read about it.

    One thing I find unusual about the type of gnostic thought promoted in the above article is that it relies upon the biblical account as a template of some sort. For objective religious historians the theology of the biblical god is believed to have evolved over time through borrowing from various older traditions, which gradually melded into a new distinctive theology. When the hebrews were in babylon after being freed by Cyrus form their babylonian captivity they became greatly influenced by the religion of their liberator. In fact in the bible Cyrus is called the messiah. He was the king of persia which was a zoroastrian culture. Before the hebrews were made slaves in babylon there was no jewish religion as we know it today, they were a henotheistic and polytheistic culture. The levant was a melting pot of peoples who migrated there because it was a traditional trading center which had been previously controlled and populated by the phoenicians and their trading empire. The people in the levent became known as hebrews at some point and they had a variety of religious beliefs. It was in babylon where judaism began. See and Judaism.htm

    What I find ironic is that both the biblical god and the gnostic conceptions both originate in zoroastrianism. Zoroastrianism of course is also not an original belief system, like Buddhism and Jainism and Sikhism, it is an offshoot of the more ancient vedic belief system.

  6. shiva on June 22, 2006 at 8:32 am

    Here is another article a bit more in-depth on how zoroastrianism became judaism and christianity.

  7. Yahdah on June 27, 2006 at 3:42 pm

    The truth will become apparent on September 12

    On 9/12/06, a nuclear device will be detonated in the middle east. This will begin the overt announcement of the end. There will be about a year left from then. The true nature of all things will then become obvious. If you don’t already know, wait and see.

  8. Piper on July 9, 2006 at 12:25 pm

    Shiva brings up a very good point, in that the “Big Bang” is an erroneous theory based on an incorrect view of cosmic redshift. This also invalidates the “10-15 billion year” age of the universe (we will never know its age). Anytime one of those “facts” is found in a supposed secret teaching or “message from beyond” you can immediately throw it out as a fabrication based upon modern incorrect science.

    Further delving will also show that the event known as “Creation” was a celestial event observed by mankind (how else could it be reported?). This catastrophic event involved the planet Saturn (Earth’s [b]original[/b] Sun and known in various cultures as Helios, Atum, An, Anu, Enki, Shamash, Vishnu, Huracan, Xiuhtecuhtli, Ahura Mazda, Kevan, Ukko and, of course, El) undergoing an electrical nova explosion and losing its plasma sheath, within which the Earth (and Mars) orbited and which prevented people from seeing stars and planets. This event, described as the “separation of the waters above from the waters below” by witnesses, gave mankind its first glimpse of the heavens and thus refers to the Creation of the ‘Gods’ and of the abode of the Gods. Note that these Gods (planets) were LOOMING over Earth and HUGE in our skies at this time. Now you know why our ancestors worshipped what we today see as mere points of light…

  9. Piper on July 9, 2006 at 1:04 pm


    This sites deletes comments they don’t agree with and leaves posts like the one above?

    That’s good to know. I will do my research somewhere less biased.

  10. dude on August 1, 2006 at 7:21 pm

    You are so right and you can judge a godby its followers. the christians, jews and muslims. Ha
    what a bunch of fuckin lunitics.

  11. benalbanach on August 2, 2006 at 7:55 am

    We know nothing. We are all profoundly ignorant.We have invented a God to soothe us in our ignorance.Smell the roses while they are there to smell and we are there to smell them. ::)

  12. Garnet Ireland on August 2, 2006 at 8:05 am

    It’s about time we figured it out. What kind of “god” is it that has to use threats and coercion in order to be worshipped? (Thou shalt have no other gods before thee). “God” is not offering us an alternative, but rather an ultimatum. In a nutshell, go screw yourself you big interdimensional thug!

  13. eyensane on August 14, 2006 at 7:39 am

    and what child does not love to flush their mothers panties down the toilet,,,did you fear the bathtub drain or watch in aw till prickly with goose bumps you saw the ” last of the water’ disapeared…………….(.like the new user friendly site….r the jokes still here,,,could not find them the last couple of visits)…………………………the carnal era…but i disagree that all photonic energy is self exhuasting…if that is even what u said

  14. SB on September 29, 2006 at 10:46 pm

    People never could handle the cold hard truth of the infinite game show. Thanks for the site. So few of us who ever question anything at all. 😀

  15. R.C. on October 3, 2006 at 11:28 am

    Fundamental Xtians with their heads up their fundaments…

    Add Islam (‘Submission’) and you’ve got a veritable bloodbath at the altar of the Demiurge: insane god of this world & the slavemaster of all these hylic yahoos who are all for killing for Jesus, Allah, plus a little crude oil thrown in for prosperity.

    It’s not called the “Prosperity Gospel” for nothing right? Cause after “accepting Jesus into one’s heart”, what with the “truth” having set patriotic hylic golems “free” to run amok.., and Behold! The current world stage, countdown to the rapture, when all those who are “saved” will be swept up into the clouds to have a swap-meet with Geezus in the clouds. Everyone else will have to get a bar code implant (“mark of the Beast) as their middle eye to by toilet paper from Satan. Why not, for those “left behind” it’s only proper for the Devil to wipe their asses. Cause now he owns it, all the way through the tribulation…

  16. R.C. on October 3, 2006 at 12:28 pm

    So, “everyone else” being who? Gnostics, Brethren of the Free Spirit, autonomous conscious free agents who don’t deep throat dogma…
    The guys who gave us “Southpark” right?

    Or wrong.

    Corrections to previous post (henpecked in a frenzy on a 15 year-old public library computer station before my time slot used expired), which is no excuse, I know.

    Correction/edited, sort of:

    The Demiurge is a vast active dead, mindless “Thing.” Not a symbiote or parasite, but alarval virus that dstroys itself and its host: Us unawakened & kept on ice, asleep, delusional, insane, ignorant and “chok full of nuts.” A hateful mockery of actual “humanity” drained dry like some cheap-ass, generic AA battery — to be tossed when it’s all used-up. No Energizer Bunny whose drumbeat any sane human acn afford to march to…

    A interdimensional, ever-contracting “non-being” as an revenant residual ‘event’ on a former event horizon long sucked through the previous universe before this one came into being. An insane, blind cosmic viral Entity (god) that would collapse infinitely in upon an ‘absence’ so radical its “lack” is beyond ontological categories of being/ non-being. But it lingers and some people call it “god.”

    Now, to maintain an approximate morphological field for manifestation/infestation, retrograde-existence as a black inversion of everything alive, this collapsing sumphole has to keep sucking all available consciousness (Castenada’s “The Eagle” is this inorganic sentient being that devours human consciousness. Predator!), to be leeched-off guess of, who? Me? You? Whose potential human ‘consciousness’, manipulated & controlled at a frequency like “REDRUM in Stephen King’s “The Shining.” A psychic vampire feeding on the self-righteous hate of the ignorant Hyle of this world. Hideous, Lovecraftian. Predatory & ruthless, harvesting the sublunar negative energy generated by the vast majority of (potential) human beings sleepwalking in ultraviolent delusional states of mind that aren’t capable of re-cognizing the “Real World.” Deluded, insane slaves & prey to the forces of Maya (illusion & death).

    One “god” or vast ‘Egregore’ that’s utterly devoid of regarding humanity as anything but “food for the moon,” as G.I. Gurdjieff (early 20TH century crazy-wise gnostic teacher, formed “The School for the Harmonious Development of Man” just outside Paris, France). Check out this book replete with his teachings to consider: “Views from the Real World.”

    Shit, I’m half-crazy today. Did I “correct” anything here. If not..

    now then.., time’s up again.

  17. Sandstrom on October 7, 2006 at 3:21 pm

    To the earlier posters / posers / hoseheads:

    If you read the actual text of “genesis” within it’s native language you may notice that there are not one but 2 creations. There is the FIRST creation which is initiate by the “Elohim” which is actually a PLURAL form of that divine name, meaning as such, “the godS created”. The SECOND creation comes some time later, and only then is Yahweh/Yaldaboath mentioned.

    Read it for yourselves biblical scholars. My view is that if you do not know how to read, write, and think in ancient Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek you should not be claiming to “own” some understanding of the christian bible. The creation myth itself goes back to ancient Sumeria, it is a myth shared and found within ALL ancient cultures of that region, and not unique to ANY of them.

    These are facts of human history, archeology and past civilizations. This is not my opinion, that is what the book of “genesis” truly says. If you willfully choose to be ignorant that is your problem and the fault of acheologists, historians and people who study religion.

    I am not affiliated with this website but I find it fascinating! Please keep it online until the Demiurge goes home!

  18. Sandstrom 2 on October 7, 2006 at 3:30 pm

    * adding correction to later sentence *

    If you willfully choose to be ignorant that is your problem and NOT the fault of acheologists, historians and people who study religion seriously.

    Please stop supporting christianity. It is a false religion not based in fact, or even true myth. It was deliberately created as a device to maintain order as the Roman Empire was falling apart. It is not real. There is absolutely nothing unique to christianity as ALL of its customs traditions and even spiritual practices of meditation are TAKEN from other sources!

    Truly the only thing unique to christianity is the endless pontifications upon dogmas which are nothing more than opinions based upon an invalidated sociological control system. There is absolutely no evidence outside of christianty that anyone remotely alike “Jesus of Nazareth” has ever existed! In fact, the town of Nazareth did not even exist until the 13th century when the church sent people to the region to create it. In the “bible” it is said that the family of Jesus took part in a census of the people when Jesus was young. Those records exist! And there is no mention of them anywhere within them. So what is fact and what is fiction?

    Believe what you want but do some investigations for yourself. When you do you will find out that christianity is indeed a fraud and not based upon anything other than a socio-political need to maintain order in a disparate empire crumbling under it’s own weight and violence.

    Read! Learn!

  19. R.C. on October 16, 2006 at 12:01 pm

    To the earlier one (puffed up overmuch Prof. Egghead): Hey you self-righteous dogmatic sycophant of rationalism, scientism, and flatulent verbiage. You: No doubt read ogham, heiroglyphics from pre-dynastic Egypt, Sumerian, Arabic, and speak fluent Aramaic with fellow members of the Lamsa Biblical Society, gotcha cumputer hooked up to the airport in your ass & multitasks, defecating/masturbating (at least intellectually) and simultaneously, splatters shit while flushing it while reading Stephen Jay Gould, cross-referenced to the newest book by that genius in a telekinetically operated wheelchair; w/degenerative disease, physicist without a psyche or voice: Stephen Hawking-a-gob-of-scientifico/materialismo, a souless corpse with electronically modulated speech predicated on the linguistic meta-structure of Darth Vader’s childhood dialect & the selfsame hylic cadaver who’s gonna give us: “the theory of everything!” Can’t wait for that dead, singularly false exposition of yet more scientific palaver. Gag!

    Really I cannot wait.., ‘Cause the arrogant fucker will never find anything but another ‘scientific theory’ no more, no less. Or hopefully croak before he can get another book published…

    Anyway, to all you ‘specialists’ out there, mucked-up in quantum physics, archaeology, ancient languages, semantics, unified feild theory, astronomy, etc., etc., etc…

    Take a break guys & go get fucked.


    R.C. ;D

  20. Orffyreus on October 30, 2006 at 5:21 am

    Hey Squirt,

    you’re onsite & so am I at this fleeting moment. So, who’s god between the two of us?

    I just had the demi-urge to try and get your attention, my fine, fellow gnostic friend! 😉

  21. Orffyreus on October 30, 2006 at 5:31 am

    To one certain “R.C.”,

    Isn’t R.C. cola a rip off of the “Real Thing”? Originally cheaper & sweeter, but a counterfeit — just like our world.

    R.C. hey you’re pecking away at your keyboard like some droll meshuggener!
    Take some mental days off(line) & relax. Please, we’d all appreciate that.

  22. Orffyreus on October 30, 2006 at 5:42 am


    Horrific lack of any anamnesis with spelling: is it ‘counterfeit or ‘counterfiet’, not this world but those words. Which is the Unknown, Hidden & True (come on, who “knows” their spelling here?) entry in the Homoplasmate’s New World Gnosis dictionary? :-

  23. Orffyreus on October 30, 2006 at 5:52 am

    Hey, all I need to know is if the real God is going to show. Here, on this website. Come on Jesus, get with the parousia & create your account here online at Gnostic Friends. I mean, don’t be shy about it (look at all the attention you’re getting here! Overwhelmed maybe?). You know, you don’t even have to use your real name to join us.

    Oh Lord! Are you even now somewhere hidden in our very midst?

  24. Kent Holm on November 6, 2006 at 11:55 am

    God is an eternity old. Thats damn old. Old enough to be severly demented, obviously.

  25. The not-so-proud on November 7, 2006 at 1:30 pm

    The hylic will never rest untill it feels for itself. It needs to feel, that is what we all seem to need in this ongoing nightmare. And a nightmare is a feeling. But cognitive work is no feeling; it may use our monkey brain, but it does not feel. The cognitive sense of what is and what is not make us feel, but it is not in itself feeling. Does it matter to the pnaumatic wires what we feel? Is feeling a part of the infection that is matter or not? Can somebody give me a gnostic definition on “feeling” within the kingdom of yaldebaoth?

  26. joesoap on January 5, 2007 at 3:34 pm

    “On 9/12/06, a nuclear device will be detonated in the middle east. This will begin the overt announcement of the end. There will be about a year left from then. The true nature of all things will then become obvious. If you don’t already know, wait and see.”

    Yahdah is clearly a nutcase

  27. Mark S on January 11, 2007 at 10:44 pm

    I think this is a well thought out little argument, and bullocks to you boneheads who arrogantly poo-poo it because your position is being compromised. Sweet sleep to you. LoL.

  28. estanislao de mediolao on January 25, 2007 at 3:48 pm

    All I got to say is that you fucking rock. You’re my electronic heroe.


  29. prophetwoods on February 5, 2007 at 9:22 am

    Hey, did yall not just see Yahdah forsee what happened in Korea scroll up the screen and on his comment….yeah but the world’s not ending ye buddy, at least not now………….. (it’ll end in 2100 !!!!)

  30. jethro on February 13, 2007 at 4:50 am

    The Philosopher Lao Tzu (by Po Chu-i)

    “Those who speak know nothing;
    Those who know are silent.”

    These words, as I am told,
    Were spoken by Lao Tzu.
    If we are to believe that Lao Ttzu
    Was himself one who knew,
    How comes it that he wrote a book
    Of five thousand words?

  31. Dick Hefacheese on March 3, 2007 at 9:40 am

    Great read keep up the good work man.

  32. Keith Henry on April 10, 2007 at 1:01 pm

    I’m a gnostic and didnt even know it (how ironic!!!)

    I’m 44 years old. For a majority of my early life (from Childhood until about 30 years old) I was involved with fundamental Christianity, and was even a preacher at one point. But I always knew there was something wrong with it and felt separate from it… as if there was someone inside of me ensuring me at every turn that HE was the true god… it’s very difficult to explain.

    Later I moved more into metaphysics and have dabbled in many disciplines along these line. It has felt to me over the last 15 years or so that I was getting closer to the “truth”, which in my soul I had already come to understand was nothing quite as absolute as mainstream Christian thought would have us believe. But with each passing experience I’d become more and more convinced that modern Christianity is a poison that has the exact opposite effect as it (at least ostenvively) proports to have.

    At any rate I literally just read a summary of Gnosticism for the first time in my life, and to my utter astonishment not only did I agree with everyhting I read, but I already knew these things to be true on the inside of myself. It was like reading an book I’d read many times before, yet I have just now come upon it.

    If anyone has shared such an expereinece please share it with me. My e-mail is More importantly I would like to get in touch with a community of nostics in my area. Any help would be much appreciated.

  33. Kriztyke on May 13, 2007 at 11:33 am

    I’m an old gnostic and occultist of the serpent, I would like to share what I’ve found out. Adonai means Lord, Elohim means G-d whom is YHWH, the highest G-d whom the serpent himself sprung from is not the Demiurge as you think he is. G-d is omnipotent in all dimensions not only four, he created us to live in harmony through spirit. G-d can’t create life without giving it free will, the serpent fell from life through resisting through will. Adam/Eve followed the serpent and lost the living spirit, with it she lost the actual awareness through spirit. The order was changed that the archons and fallen got to play their role in creation as gods. Adam/Eve as fallen through these gods experience illusory reality blaming it as Demiurge on the highest living G-d. All is through Adam/Eve fallen from G-d without spirit, an gnostic on it’s path might experience imprisonment. The solution in this is worse than the problem, achieve spiritual union with death whom is the serpent. Through gnosis or meditation or similar achieve spiritual awareness, this is not the spirit of the highest G-d. And the serpent continues to blame the highest G-d beyond time and space forever omnipotent for being the Demiurge when in fact the serpent is the one whom made man fall and blind her from through spirit experiencing reality in time and space and beyond. The only way to achieve spiritual union with G-d through spirit is to believe and confess Messiah Yeshua.

    Isaiah 14:12-15

    [12] How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
    [13] For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
    [14] I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
    [15] Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

    Satan is the archetype of the self-exalted being, beginning with his attempt to usurp God’s throne. Nebuchadnezzar follows his example by his self-praise: “Is not this great Babylon, that I have built for a royal dwelling by my mighty power and for the honor of my majesty?” (Daniel 4:28-37). The man of sin, the Antichrist, will be the most self-exalted human being on earth, and this same spirit of pride will drive him (II Thessalonians 2:3-4).

    Martin G. Collins 
Overcoming (Part 9): Self-Exaltation

  34. Scott on July 19, 2007 at 10:23 am

    Max wrote:

    “The first God exists outside of space and time and is the product of itself.”

    Even God can’t create Himself. Is that what you are saying? What is your authority of this “knowledge”? Inquiring minds want to know.

  35. Scott on July 19, 2007 at 10:27 am

    I also wanted to comment on the first paragraph, man I’d love to have a face to face talk with some of you guys, but this will have to do. You said that the biblical creator God’s greatest flaw was his ignorance, specifically the ignorance of His origin. You are admitting that He really did say what the Bible says that He said. My question is that why is it that your “Supreme God” intentionally created an ignorant “demi-god.” I look forward to conversing with you.

    Psalm 16:11

  36. seriously. THE Simon on December 12, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    Hey guys, its me. I told you I’d be back.

    What’s up? I mean if anyone cares I can help /shed some light/ on these matters. Or not. Up to you I suppose.

    First I’ll take to you, Scott. I’d love to have a face-to-face talk with you also, because I think it would be intelligent and I do so cherish intelligent discourse.

    The Architect (My preferred translation of “Demiurge”) is a part of the “master plan”, so to speak, because nothing exists out of the “Supreme God”, or as I like to say “Aion” (Eternity), more personally “Father”, or just simply God. Nothing The Architect does is without the influence of God, however this doesn’t bother The Architect very much because he’s ignorant of God’s influence upon him anyway (Although I personally believe this has to have changed after such a long stretch of time). Why does God allow anything? I don’t think its worth bothering with – the immediate challenge is “why are we here on Earth?”.

    So far, I’ve learned that we’re here by choice. Somewhere along the line we believed or knew that living this existence is of value. I believe it is of value because of what I can do for others with my presence and with what I can teach, what I can learn from the experiences I have here, and because there are a few things that I still want to do. After attaining the Gnostic “basics”, you can keep coming back. If you’ve learned anything at all, for a good number of times you will, or maybe if it makes you happy you’ll do it forever.

    You’ll get it. We’ll all get it – its inevitable. The question is do you want it sooner rather than later? Is it even necessary for you to get there sooner?

    This place allows us to learn in ways we probably couldn’t otherwise. Furthermore, simulacrum though it may be, this world is still the work of a craftsman – it is a work of art. Is not a painting or a sculpture beautiful? Are not these things /technically/ inferior to what it is they are trying to represent?

    Many of the “Gnostic” writings can also be taken as examples of Hellenic storytelling, for the writing styles are steeped in that culture. These are not just “higher” truths, they also tell stories about ourselves.

  37. Boris on January 8, 2012 at 12:11 pm


    I’m confused. Are Eco-systems things that take more energy than they produce?
    Don’t we have those big glass jars filled with worms and plants and earth that keep on living?
    Isn’t the Eco-System and the circle of life a great example of something everlasting, constantly spinning around?

    Please contact me at boris dot o dot matic at gmailc dot com if you can answer this question or just want to chat.

  38. Sephira Richard on June 6, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    There’s a Supreme Beign but when did this entity exist?

    There’s a word in Vedic:Om,the supreme Aeon use this sound when ‘it’ was nothing to magically expand itself and when om was realease,there was the Magical Big Bang which create universal space

    Same trend of ‘om’ began again but the Aeon recall pain of last explosion n emanate 3 Energy:Electron,Neutron,Proton to get the name Atum or Sethan which mean complete to create a Magnetic Shield round itself

    Next Aeon emanate Light frm withing n generate other basic element frm hydrogyne,oxygen n live frm within but emit Carbon dioxide n reason the universe is fill with co2 except earth

    In vedic this Supreme is KrishNarayana

    Krishna bcam a Sun then advance/shift to humanoid form and the Self-Atom create by rapid combination to form Planets n Stars

    Earth got oxygyne at first atempt to create life form by ‘penetrating’ itself which led to explosion n realse of element withing

    Krishna re exist again and tried procedure 6000+years ago n life form created frm Red ray of refractive index 0.00003 n why Red cell is 0.00003 n Krishna fled to conceal explosion in planet btw Mars&Jupiter but wish a new vesel n Bramayana emanate frm Krishna n place in the Legendry fying Saucer n Krishna fade away but return as Sesha/Iguana betray by Vishnu who want to claim Brama-body

  39. Solanacea on September 30, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    I think that God is not explained or contained in the Gnostic writings very accurately. I believe the early Gnostic writers created their slightly outlandish, convoluted myths in a well-meaning attempt to verbalize their complex, multi-dimensional beliefs in the ultimate power. This is present to some extent in many religions, such as the lack of description of the Holy Spirit in the New Testament. I believe Gnosticism is best understood on a less complex level, and in the context of another religion. I consider myself a Gnostic, but also a catholic, for example. I believe that God (in a one-leveled, non-hylic, unrelated to the Demiurge) form, can be found most purely in ourselves. This is at least partially evident in Eastern religions, many of which value meditation and asceticism as paths to the divine. I believe that the kernel of God in us is the “good side” of human actions and consciousness, and that we express and build that through good works.
    On a slightly different tangent, I see God in an usual way. I see God in science. I’ve always struggled to reconcile my love of the disciplines of science, and my interest and belief in spirituality. Then I had sort of a….epiphany. I then began to believe in God as working through the sciences and forces of our world. Evolution, His paintbrush and clay, shaping life into it’s myriad forms and exact specifications. The Standard Model forces (electromagnetism, gravity, etc.) His hammer and nails, building and holding the universe together. I am very young, and this is only a bud of what I hope will be a great flowering of gnosis (knowledge) for me. please argue/ ridicule. I believe argument and adversity are the forge of a good logos (reasoning) (interestingly, the Greek word for the “Word” in the Bible) thanks

  40. Nick Magus on February 16, 2013 at 9:11 am

    You are right%

  41. Nick Magus on February 16, 2013 at 9:16 am

    In Romanian “Om” is the word for man.New research shows that the Romanian language and culture was before latin . Romans learned from Tracks and Dacs.

  42. Mark on November 22, 2016 at 3:41 pm

    Have you even read the Bible RevMax. That God killed Medianite babies, children, women and men! And its much worse than that! It would take volumes to explain how bad that God is!

  43. Mark on November 22, 2016 at 3:45 pm

    Watch my Vids. on youtube under the ID Infonator1. I have vids that explains its all a cover story from an off world super race with its control prodgeny bloodline here on earth as our leaders to limit us along many different fields. Namely Space travel that’s not commercialized only for their few astronauts. Free energy and human elevation in intelligence and psysiology!

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